Comments on: Designers and Developers, Why Can’t We All Just Get Along?

By: Arun Pattnaik

Arun Pattnaik — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 07:38:36 +0000

Fantastic article. Here is what I think:

1. I am a designer who knows a bit of coding. Does it make me a better designer to work with? Maybe yes, since I can keep in mind what’s doable and what’s not.
2. I’d agree with Duncan, doesn’t make much sense to me either.
4. I’d convince them to keep redesigning as and when it is required. There are things which can be designed, but can affect usability and/or create programming issues. The designers should be patient enough to understand the situation and act smartly.
6. To attach a quick document about the details of the design. e.g. how does the menu look like when hovered, what’s the submenu structure, what slides and what scrolls, a modal window, a lightbox.
7. As soon as the initial design drafts are being prepared. i.e before it even leaves the designer’s desk. That would save a lot of time and effort.
8. A more ideal candidate would be the one who knows a bit of both design and development.
9. Easy, make him sit next to the lead designer when you ask questions ;)
10. Answer to #7 works for this one too.

btw, I’d love to see the video too.

By: Paul Parson

Paul Parson — Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:17:40 +0000

The Designer v. Developer clash comes from a differing perspective on the web. The Designer, in his corner, is an optimist about what can be done. While the Developer, in his corner, is a realist about the technological limitations of the web for some users, and of the designer’s design.

Unfortunately, there is a lot of cross-over in these two fields…but ultimately, the more a designer knows code, and the more a developer understands the experiential value of his code, the fewer rounds that will be needed in this epic battle of geek.

By: sohbet

sohbet — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 11:15:11 +0000

thanks admin good post

By: web trafficker

web trafficker — Sat, 23 May 2009 02:47:37 +0000

developer and designers agree sometimes, only after a 24 hour debate. this is can never be questioned anymore. but you ca actually add up both ideas to make a more functional web right?

By: Ivydesigns

Ivydesigns — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:17:11 +0000

I'd heartily disagree with you. A designer with 'web' in front of their name ought to at best be a competent front-end developer in a pinch. I can design in a pinch, so I think my vantage point is fair.

By: golfman_story

golfman_story — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 17:00:24 +0000

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By: Harry Johnson

Harry Johnson — Sun, 08 Mar 2009 09:46:43 +0000

A designer and a developer are like the beauty and the brains of any website. If you want a smart and attractive website, you need both.

Designers and developers need to realise that without each other their sites are either bimbos or nerds.

Come together and recognise the beauty and elegance in what each of both of you do.

By: pixelita

pixelita — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:59:44 +0000

We must be odd ducks here. I am mostly a coder, but I understand design (and CSS and HTML obviously). My partner, the graphic artist, does all the design work, but he must understand CSS and HTML pretty darn well because I've never encountered a comp of his that I haven't been able to slice and mortise to whatever CMS we are using at the time.

I don't understand why there needs to be so much friction. But yes, I do think that designers (read: graphic artists) and developers (read: code jockeys) need a passing familiarity with one another's work (and don't most "web designers" know both?) so that the designer doesn't create a comp that is completely unworkable in CSS. ("You can't get there from here!"), some kind of Escher-ish monster that defies all laws of HTML and CSS as we know them.

I rely on my partner's design eye to come up with and execute concepts, to make our clients' visions come alive. He relies on me to add those little touches with CSS to pull everything together so that it's one solid package. (I guess I better kiss my partner, huh, since the article portrays designers and developers as fighting like two cats in a sack.)

By: Phil Cook

Phil Cook — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:48:56 +0000

As a front end developer I always try to fit as much of the designers needs as I can however there are times when designers need to know the limitations of the web. Using full background images of a nice pretty beach are ok but the load on the server when you are receiving in excess of a million unique visitors a day will take its toll.

By: Tom

Tom — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 14:56:56 +0000

When it comes to situations like this, the number one thing that makes any project successful is communication.

Everything else can be worked through if communication is solid…