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		<title>By: hiutopor</title>
		<link>http://carsonified.com/blog/events/women-at-web-conferences/#comment-1072</link>
		<dc:creator>hiutopor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 10:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi

Very interesting information! Thanks!

Bye</description>
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<p>Very interesting information! Thanks!</p>
<p>Bye</p>
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		<title>By: chris bush</title>
		<link>http://carsonified.com/blog/events/women-at-web-conferences/#comment-1071</link>
		<dc:creator>chris bush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 02:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice one for getting Julie to your next event...

Really wish i could go, but, we moved to Toronto at christmas :( Gonna hawk it to a few friends tho :D

You guys rock!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice one for getting Julie to your next event&#8230;</p>
<p>Really wish i could go, but, we moved to Toronto at christmas :( Gonna hawk it to a few friends tho :D</p>
<p>You guys rock!</p>
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		<title>By: morganusvitus</title>
		<link>http://carsonified.com/blog/events/women-at-web-conferences/#comment-1070</link>
		<dc:creator>morganusvitus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 13:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The site looks great ! Thanks for all your help ( past, present and future !)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The site looks great ! Thanks for all your help ( past, present and future !)</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Carson: We Are Doing Something About Diversity &#171; Opportunity Knocks</title>
		<link>http://carsonified.com/blog/events/women-at-web-conferences/#comment-1069</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Carson: We Are Doing Something About Diversity &#171; Opportunity Knocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 03:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 17th, 2007 &#183; No Comments  Carsonified! Â» Blog Archive Â» Diversity - The real issues and what weâ€™re doing aboutit [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Allen Stern</title>
		<link>http://carsonified.com/blog/events/women-at-web-conferences/#comment-1068</link>
		<dc:creator>Allen Stern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 00:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My hope is that conferences (all, not just this one), start to show a freshness in their speakers. I know conferences want the big names, but at the same time, there are loads of new startups and developers and bloggers and designers, etc. who can offer new perspectives.

Ryan, I have always been amazed at how well you do things. I think this post shows how much time and effort you put into the speaker lineup. I think you went above and beyond the call of duty. Hats off to you and the whole CS team. Can&#039;t wait to FOOA, and hopefully FOWA NYC this Sept!

Of course I understand that everyone wants to meet/listen to the Mickey Mantle&#039;s of the web, not the newbies. Tickets go quicker for the Mickey&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My hope is that conferences (all, not just this one), start to show a freshness in their speakers. I know conferences want the big names, but at the same time, there are loads of new startups and developers and bloggers and designers, etc. who can offer new perspectives.</p>
<p>Ryan, I have always been amazed at how well you do things. I think this post shows how much time and effort you put into the speaker lineup. I think you went above and beyond the call of duty. Hats off to you and the whole CS team. Can&#8217;t wait to FOOA, and hopefully FOWA NYC this Sept!</p>
<p>Of course I understand that everyone wants to meet/listen to the Mickey Mantle&#8217;s of the web, not the newbies. Tickets go quicker for the Mickey&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2007-02-27 at Ejovi Nuwere</title>
		<link>http://carsonified.com/blog/events/women-at-web-conferences/#comment-1067</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2007-02-27 at Ejovi Nuwere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 00:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Carsonified! Â» Blog Archive Â» Diversity - The real issues and what weâ€™re doing about it Everyone is talking about the diversity of conferences and the tech industry. This is old news to anyone that is actually a minority in technology. We&#8217;ve known about the lack of diversity in technology for a good 10-15 years. Welcome to the party. (tags: diversity technology conferences) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Carsonified! Â» Blog Archive Â» Diversity &#8211; The real issues and what weâ€™re doing about it Everyone is talking about the diversity of conferences and the tech industry. This is old news to anyone that is actually a minority in technology. We&#8217;ve known about the lack of diversity in technology for a good 10-15 years. Welcome to the party. (tags: diversity technology conferences) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://carsonified.com/blog/events/women-at-web-conferences/#comment-1066</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just as an aside, I hope you get a chance to sit with a blind or partially sighted person while they navigate your site with a screen reader (with the volume on so you can hear it too).  I would say it is a real eye-opener, but that is obviously not the right word. It is however a GREAT experience for any designer, and while usually embarrassing and humbling, the first time, very interesting. I was lucky enough to have a very helpful person go through a site with me, it made a big difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just as an aside, I hope you get a chance to sit with a blind or partially sighted person while they navigate your site with a screen reader (with the volume on so you can hear it too).  I would say it is a real eye-opener, but that is obviously not the right word. It is however a GREAT experience for any designer, and while usually embarrassing and humbling, the first time, very interesting. I was lucky enough to have a very helpful person go through a site with me, it made a big difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Meriblog: Meri Williams&#8217; Weblog &#187; links for 2007-02-27</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meriblog: Meri Williams&#8217; Weblog &#187; links for 2007-02-27</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Carsonified! Â» Blog Archive Â» Diversity - The real issues and what weâ€™re doing about it I think the CarsonSystems folks are good people and I&#8217;m glad to see them rising to this challenge in a positive way. Might even submit a proposal, although most of my expertise is in management rather than specifically web app development&#8230; (tags: conferences diversity gender women speakers selection changes support) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Carsonified! Â» Blog Archive Â» Diversity &#8211; The real issues and what weâ€™re doing about it I think the CarsonSystems folks are good people and I&#8217;m glad to see them rising to this challenge in a positive way. Might even submit a proposal, although most of my expertise is in management rather than specifically web app development&#8230; (tags: conferences diversity gender women speakers selection changes support) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alison</title>
		<link>http://carsonified.com/blog/events/women-at-web-conferences/#comment-1064</link>
		<dc:creator>Alison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I had a great conversation last night with two very talented female developers. We agreed that one of the major problems with getting more women on stage is that women often donâ€™t promote themselves to conference organisers.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This sample set of two plus your sweeping generalization, coupled with Matthew Pinnell&#039;s comment regarding how woman just &quot;get on with it&quot; is really quite amazing.

In between saying &quot;you&#039;re right we need more women&quot; and saying &quot;sure women, come on out and show yourselves if I don&#039;t find you&quot; you manage to get out of your own conference shortcoming by saying &quot;hey women, you&#039;re not aggressive enough with self promotion, better get on that.&quot;  Talk about insult to injury.

I&#039;m not hearing reasons as to why more women aren&#039;t appearing at technology conferences, and creative conferences, I&#039;m hearing excuses.  Some of these excuses I might point out,  are well, offensive.

If you can&#039;t find women speakers then you&#039;re not looking hard enough, say that, don&#039;t say that we woman don&#039;t work hard enough making ourselves known to you, we aren&#039;t hiding under rocks or pushing back against your advances - you&#039;re not looking.  Say &quot;sorry we didn&#039;t look, we&#039;re going to look harder next time and make more of an effort, women are an active part of the arts and technology community and have something to say.&quot;  Then after you&#039;ve looked, (for more than three) you can write about how all the women you contacted said they didn&#039;t want to speak because we are all inherently not self promoters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I had a great conversation last night with two very talented female developers. We agreed that one of the major problems with getting more women on stage is that women often donâ€™t promote themselves to conference organisers.</p></blockquote>
<p>This sample set of two plus your sweeping generalization, coupled with Matthew Pinnell&#8217;s comment regarding how woman just &#8220;get on with it&#8221; is really quite amazing.</p>
<p>In between saying &#8220;you&#8217;re right we need more women&#8221; and saying &#8220;sure women, come on out and show yourselves if I don&#8217;t find you&#8221; you manage to get out of your own conference shortcoming by saying &#8220;hey women, you&#8217;re not aggressive enough with self promotion, better get on that.&#8221;  Talk about insult to injury.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not hearing reasons as to why more women aren&#8217;t appearing at technology conferences, and creative conferences, I&#8217;m hearing excuses.  Some of these excuses I might point out,  are well, offensive.</p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t find women speakers then you&#8217;re not looking hard enough, say that, don&#8217;t say that we woman don&#8217;t work hard enough making ourselves known to you, we aren&#8217;t hiding under rocks or pushing back against your advances &#8211; you&#8217;re not looking.  Say &#8220;sorry we didn&#8217;t look, we&#8217;re going to look harder next time and make more of an effort, women are an active part of the arts and technology community and have something to say.&#8221;  Then after you&#8217;ve looked, (for more than three) you can write about how all the women you contacted said they didn&#8217;t want to speak because we are all inherently not self promoters.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen Bekman</title>
		<link>http://carsonified.com/blog/events/women-at-web-conferences/#comment-1063</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen Bekman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan, I am happy that you&#039;ve made a decision to be pro-active. It&#039;s worth noting that this issue came up in the Fall and didn&#039;t result in any constructive response on your end.

And, actually, yes - you specifically said to me in email &quot;send me your list of ideal speakers and I will have a look.&quot;

You might be inclined to be dismissive of my efforts since I&#039;ve been such a persistent critic, but it&#039;s probably in your best interest to peruse the list I&#039;ve been developing. It&#039;s an excellent resource and it&#039;s only going to improve.

Vic, the list is not specifically focused on women in tech and isn&#039;t as strong as I want it to be in that category just yet. Women like danah boyd, Caterina Fake, Mena Trott and Meg Hourihan are already included, and we&#039;ve gotten many suggestions for excellent additions since Kottke put up his post last week. For the time being, the names are listed below in comments. We&#039;ll integrate those suggestions into the main list in the near future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan, I am happy that you&#8217;ve made a decision to be pro-active. It&#8217;s worth noting that this issue came up in the Fall and didn&#8217;t result in any constructive response on your end.</p>
<p>And, actually, yes &#8211; you specifically said to me in email &#8220;send me your list of ideal speakers and I will have a look.&#8221;</p>
<p>You might be inclined to be dismissive of my efforts since I&#8217;ve been such a persistent critic, but it&#8217;s probably in your best interest to peruse the list I&#8217;ve been developing. It&#8217;s an excellent resource and it&#8217;s only going to improve.</p>
<p>Vic, the list is not specifically focused on women in tech and isn&#8217;t as strong as I want it to be in that category just yet. Women like danah boyd, Caterina Fake, Mena Trott and Meg Hourihan are already included, and we&#8217;ve gotten many suggestions for excellent additions since Kottke put up his post last week. For the time being, the names are listed below in comments. We&#8217;ll integrate those suggestions into the main list in the near future.</p>
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